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    Animum Rege
    $NCLH conversation
    Just remember. Right now the stock price of $NCLH is about where is was early 2020 in the pandemic. While I know logic has little to do with it, logically it makes no sense. Simple because during shutdown the stock was higher with 0 (zero) revenue and living on cash and debt. So I believe that the stock will come back strong and if they confirm the acquisition of new ships that will tell you smooth sailing is ahead and will be beneficial to those who dont panic. Remember Warren Buffets old saying " Be greedy when others are fearful, and fearful when others are greedy" . GLTA. See you at the earnings call tomorrow
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    Wow, I bought big at $21.80 & regret it. I'll make $$$ but it'll just take longer than I had hoped. Good to see it's the entire market & not just travel, cruise or $NCLH. Gonna try to find some $$$ & average down even farther. Good luck all. Stay with it. It'll recover, it always does. Remember it was in the $15's not too long ago.
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    Watching entire market going down...perfect time to buy more $NCLH. Buy enough & even a 50 cent or $1.00 increase is significant. This month all 28 vessels will be in operation. Most likely the FAA mask mandate will end 5/3 & 80% of cruise passengers fly to their cruise.
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    I just did a short 3 night cruise on Carnival but only invest in $NCLH. The cruise business will grow tremendously through rest of 2022. $NCLH will not be discounting but rather offer more services to increase value. 80% of cruisers fly & on 4/18 we expect the airline mask mandate to be removed & that will generate more travel interest. I trade this stock w/trailing sell order. Great stock for Roth IRA!
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    You can't time the market. I did really, really well on TUE with $NCLH & my trailing $ sell order sold entire position same day so I can't take advantage of today's +3% increase but that's ok. There will be wide market drop & I'll once again buy in to $NCLH at a discount. Be patient my friends. (also my account had to close the deal to avoid trading violation so all good)
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    Seems like entire market starting to move up. I just pulled the trigger & bought more $NCLH. Sold boat load last week at $21.66 so now I'm getting free shares! Hopefully I didn't buy to early.
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    Sold this last week at $21.66, bought back in low $21's yesterday & putting my trailing sell order in right now. I love $NCLH! This baby has paid for many summer vacations already in 2022. Since March 2020 I've followed it & it's very predictable, BUT you have to be patient & fight that urge to buy. You might leave some on the table BUT you can never time the market anyhow. Best everyone!
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    When entire market is down then it's a great buying opp for $NCLH. This will be back to $22 soon. I loaded up more this morning. Easy $$$. I've done this ever since 3/2020.
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    I'm really tempted. S&P & Dow 30 down 1.1% but $NCLH only down .4%. Might jump into this today. Maybe the $NCLH vaccine requirement will be lifted soon & that should pop this stock.
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    Hairy
    $RCL conversation
    We would like to give heads up to all $RCL $CCL & $NCLH owners, before even considering subscripting to coming Virgin Voyages IPO, that you will be much better off, if you stick with these well established
    cruise line operators. Instead of trying your luck with cash strapped, no revenue startup, which has massive newbuild program yet to be financed.

    Question:
    So Lizard Branson, is this Virgin Voyages IPO any different than your earlier Space-, Virgin, -related scams?
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    Hitting $17 is always a buy signal for me with $NCLH. I went in big this morning. It's easy $. Tge stock has done this cycle so many times since I started monitoring it in May 2020.
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    PumpIt
    $CCL conversation
    $CCL $NCLH $RCL
    Going to fully open soon. 😎

    CDC lowers warning level for cruise travel • Marnie Hunter, Naomi Thomas and Keri Enriquez, CNN • Published 17th June 2021

    (CNN) — Health officials in the United States have eased their stance on the safety of cruise travel for vaccinated passengers, lowering the travel alert level just over a week before the first cruise in more than 15 months is scheduled to set sail from a US port.
    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday lowered its health notice on cruise travel from Level 4, which recommends avoiding all travel, to Level 3, which encourages travelers to get fully vaccinated before traveling.
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    Shayna
    $RCL conversation
    As I write this, cruise is a little down pre-market, likely due to AstraZeneca pausing it's vaccine trails (temporarily, and out of an abundance of caution) because one participant had an adverse reaction. It's unclear what happened, it may not even have been the vaccine, they will pause until they can investigate, these pauses are a normal part of the process. This is not impacting the timeline of a vaccine, as the two front runners, Moderna and Pfizer, use a different technology and delivery system, and both are up pre-market. AstraZennaca is down less pre-market than some cruise companies$RCL $CCL $NCLH, if that gives an idea at the level of worry. Feel free to invest as you will, of course, but I suspect any momentary dips in cruise will be short lived. Vaccines are still likely landing late November, maybe even October, nothing has changed there. The 15 minute Covid-19 test likely to help restart cruise, and the real game changer, is totally unaffected. If you are long or investing long with the idea that vaccines, testing, and therapeutics will help restart the cruising industry sooner than expected, this pause with one company does not impact or change that strategy, or even hurt it's timeline.
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    Shayna
    $NCLH conversation
    I'm going to do a quick post to my fellow retail investors, that are not shills for some hedge group or bots, but just average folks trying to set up a potion. What I've noticed for over a month $NCLH, $CCL, and $RCL, really, all Covid-19 impacted stocks, airlines, casinos, etc, but specifically the cruise stocks have been on a down trend. For the last month, especially the last few weeks, they have been trading on very low volume. $NCLH, whcih I have been watching very carefully, has been acting like it has found strong support around 13 a share, and appears to be re-coupled mostly with the market. Why does it matter?

    I suspect we're seeing a bottom for these stocks, or somewhere near it, and we're going to see a trend change soon, and it will be on full daily volume. Why? I suspect the downward sell pressure in these stocks are weak retail longs selling off, and not institutional investors. Why are they weak and retail? ...because the drop has been painful, but the pain is short term, and it's mostly retail as institutions still hold close to 90% of these stocks. Why short term? Because Covid-19 cannot physically last forever, based on the data. Why do I say that? ...because I've been watching the numbers. The numbers of cases growing, some of the hotspot states, like Florida, California, even Arizona, appear, to be leveling off. I really don't understand why, if it's legitimate or manipulation, and why it isn't being more talked about in the media. Yes, the overall numbers of cases is bad, it's ...really bad. But it's not "as bad" as it was a week ago, or two weeks ago, or three weeks ago in some of the states that are supposed to be out of control. As investors, we trend to recognize these trends. If you don't believe me, just google it for yourself. It's like unemployment, it's bad, but, arguably, it's less bad than it was the week prior, and the week before that. When the cases went down before, we saw a HUGE upsurge in these stocks Covid-19 impacted stocks. Then the cases went up and these stocks started to drop...but now, they are going down again. Again, check yourself, let the numbers convince you. This time, we will have both declining cases and vaccines around the corner, no less than five promising candidates in Phase III human trials with results due Oct/Nov. There's also ENORMOUS political pressure to leak positive vaccine results to the markets before the US election, for obvious reasons. I'm not telling you what to do with you money, and I'm not saying this isn't all "baked" in. I don't think it is, as new agencies are just now starting to pick it up. You make your own call. I reposition more heavily in some of these Covid-19 stocks myself. I'm only typing this as it's fun to chat about stocks, but also just in case, it gives some investor out there like me another puzzle piece to add to their own strategy. Hope this helps. Here's a site to start with:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s
    View NPR's maps and graphics to see where COVID-19 is hitting hardest in the U.S., which state outbreaks are growing and which are leveling off.
    View NPR's maps and graphics to see where COVID-19 is hitting hardest in the U.S., which state outbreaks are growing and which are leveling off.
    www.npr.org
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    Jeff
    $DAL conversation
    European Union has officially reached an agreement Wednesday morning to lift travel ban on the United States. Change will take effect in the coming days. -Reuters

    Huge win for the airline & travel industry right before Summer's pent-up demand begins.

    $DAL $AAL $UAL $SAVE $JETS $JBLU $ABNB $CCL $RCL $NCLH $TRIP $LUV $EXPE
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    Jake
    Cruise stocks are about to take off Monday. I’m guessing 5-8% gains on Monday alone. $CCL $RCL $NCLH
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    SoCal Dude
    $NCLH conversation
    $NCLH @ $17 last week was a gift! If you were in the market last year following cruise lines you knew this was a repeat. Easy money!
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    Evil Jimmy Z
    $CCL conversation
    What just happened with CCL is a bit complicated but I'll try to explain.

    A few months ago, some folks bought bonds from CCL that pay the holders 5.75% per year until 2024. (The bond is called a "Senior Convertible Note" but more on that later.)

    In 2024, the holders can either get their principal back or get the equivalent cash back in the form of stocks at whatever the price happens to be in 2024.

    Instead of having to pay these guys 5.75% for the next few years and then return their principal, CCL offered to
    "buy" their bonds back by giving the holders equivalent shares (worth $14.02 at the time of the transaction) today.

    About half the bondholders agreed. Last night they took shares from CCL in exchange for their claims to the following:

    -5.75% per year for four years

    -the principal cost of the bond

    -equivalent CCL shares in 2024

    AND because these were Senior Convertible Notes, they also give up these rights:

    -rights to any property, cash, investments, ships, or any assets that may remain after bankruptcy, less court and litigation costs and other fees.

    CCL received no cash from the transaction and, in fact, had to pay about $200m in fees. They diluted your shares to the tune of 5.5 millike and.

    The sell off premarket was some of these bondholders receiving and then immediately selling those shares for whatever price they can get for them. We can expect more selling from them in the next few days or weeks.

    We know why CCL did this--to free up about $1.5b in much needed cash that they'd owe between now and 2024. But now ask yourself: Why would the bondholders agree to give up all these benefits for just $14.02?

    Here are a few reasons:

    -they think shares will be worth less than $14.02 in 2024

    -they don't think CCL shares will exist in 2024

    -they don't think they will get their principal back in 2024

    -they don't think they'll get 5.75% each year until 2024

    -they don't think the value of assets after bankruptcy will be enough to return their principal

    In short, about half the bondholders (e.g., "smart money" private hedge funds) decided that the above scenario is more likely than not and took the deal.

    Do with this information what you'd like and draw your own conclusions. But this is a very significant development that indicates the future direction of CCL.

    $nclh $rcl $ccl
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    Money369
    $NCLH conversation
    For all the buyers of cruise line stocks, including short covering shorts, at $26 per share, NCLH's total enterprise value (market cap plus total debts) have reached the highs before the covid-19 pandemic. It will take at least two years for cruise lines to be able to operate at full capacity before CDC's restrictions are lifted, in the main time, cruise lines, such as $NCLH, $CCL, $RCL, will continue to increase their debt loads and share counts as negative cashflows persists because of 50% capacity restrictions.

    It's your money and my posts is not investment advice, but for pure entertainment only. But, it seems obvious that cruise lines at best offer fully priced investments that yields low single digit annual returns, at worst will go belly up and shareholders' capital will disappear in a bankruptcy filing. You can say bye bye to your returns especially when you include inflation.
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    WJK
    $NCLH conversation
    I have owned $NCLH $CCL $RCL for nearly a year. They currently represent 12% of my portfolio. I continue to hold for the inevitable recovery. Once most people are vaccinated and life returns to normal, these stocks will benefit. All these companies are well run and have managed to remain solvent. Lenders continue to lend to them. Smart $$$ bought in a long time ago (Saudis @ $8 in $CCL). While holding these stocks can try anyone's patience, I can't complain, being up 50%-100% on them already. It is hard to block out the successes that are being had in other stocks, but I'm sticking to my game plan.